The following is a transcript from the Pro America Report.
Welcome. Welcome welcome! Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report and we’ve got some work to do today. I will get to it in a moment. What you need to know. I got a good response by the way, from the Freedom 20, the Freedom 20 is the 20 members of the US House Republicans who stood up last week to help get more changes also on the thank you card I sent out a way to call the the 20 of them the 20 freedom fighters. I also put the phone number for Speaker McCarthy, because he is living up to what he said he would do, so that’s good. It’s good stuff. Got a good response from that. In a few moments we got a couple of interviews.
One I’m finally got together this interview with Thomas Baker, retired FBI agent, great guy. The interview got. I recorded it ahead of time. It got all messed up. I had to clean It up so. It’s there.
We’ll also talk with Todd Bensman to get his update From the border he was down there. You probably have seen the images. The infrared images of the border of north of two, well, north of more than 2000 illegal migrants coming across the border. Powerful images has caught the attention of a lot of people. We’ll talk with Todd Bensman alright before we get to that what you need to know.
What you need to Know today is this. There’s a man, a friend of mine named Bruce Fein. He’s a very accomplished lawyer, a constitutional lawyer, and a very interesting guy. He’s also a commentator. On various TV stations, radio stations, he he writes, I think he’s got a piece that he told me will come up come out on The Hill so I’m stealing from him as I tell you what you need to know today and that is this.
If you look at the situation with the documents that have been found in at least two and maybe three locations. There were some documents of Joe Biden that were classified that were found at the Biden or the Penn Biden Center. The office that was in Washington DC kind of actually around the corner from Bruce Fein. He was mentioning that that so on Pennsylvania Avenue down closer to the capitol, Joe Biden had an office after he was vice president before he took office as president. It was at the Penn Biden University of Pennsylvania, Penn Biden, Center and those documents were found there. They also found some documents in the garage out in Wilmington, next to the Corvette Joe Biden’s Corvette. So there’s at least two and there may be a third set of papers. I’m not sure if they were in the same locations, but it’s now sort of a pattern of classified documents that are improperly maintained in the wrong place.
And what Bruce Fein offered was more clarity on what the statute is and what the law is about improperly housing taking classified documents and what he pointed out was largely, it is about the intent of the person. So it, you know. It’s it’s. It’s not so much that if you made a mistake and put these documents in a box and they went there, it’s not one of these sort of de facto. If the document’s off site, you’re automatically guilty. It’s the intent. Of Biden, it’s even the intent of of Trump on his documents, and here’s what. Here’s what Bruce Fein has called for, and I think this is pretty powerful.
He, Bruce Fein was in the, in the I think in the Senate during the ’80s. As a young lawyer when Ronald Reagan was president and when the Iran Contra situation happened, Ronald Reagan waived all executive privilege. He waived all the rules that would allow him to dodge accountability. He waived even his Fifth Amendment protections. I think the way Bruce described it. Basically Reagan said, I know I didn’t do anything wrong. I’m the President of the United States. We can’t afford to have the president hamstrung like this. Therefore, I waive everything. Let’s get to the Bottom of it. And it was ugly. There were pieces that were ugly that made it look, you know, like some of these men and women in Iran Contra were out, you know, further than anybody knew. Probably true they were doing things that nobody really approved, probably true, but Reagan was not complicit. And that was clear, pretty quick and he was able to continue his presidency.
Bruce Fein’s point Is that in this context, Joe Biden needs to get ahead of this and needs to end it fast by instead of allowing a special counsel to drag on for years to go ahead and say I’ll go under oath, I’ll I’ll do a deposition, I’ll testify, I will say what happened, we’ll get past this. And if he can’t, we’re in for you know the business as usual.
Well, here’s what you need to know. Bruce Fein’s a really good lawyer. I think he told me that, I think he told me that Dershowitz was his professor at Harvard Law School. I think it might be right. If not, he’s that kind of he’s that kind of mind. He’s that kind of lawyer, and so he’s right on his judgment.
The question is whether he he can be right on the politics, and I don’t think at this point that you have a guy, Joe Biden, who’s 80 years old, who for 45 years literally 45 almost 46 years, has been one of the leaders of the most powerful government in history. He was a senator for decades. He was vice president for eight years. He’s been president for 2 1/2 years. He he is not used to having to do what he wants, what what, anyone else wants him to do. He has not had to do that. He doesn’t. He is not in that position where he has to accede to anyone else’s judgment. It’s just not what he does and and therefore I don’t think you’re going to see any difference in in what the approach is to what he’s done before. Which is to say, oh, no. It’s nothing to see here. He got asked about the Corvette. And the documents he said. Well, the Corvette’s under lock and key, that’s not the point.
That’s not the point at all, it’s arrogance.
But is he gonna pull a Reagan? No way, no way.
Bruce Fein might be right. That Ronald Reagan, that’s what he did, and that’s what should happen. And he might be right that that’s the best way to go forward.
But I’ll tell you, it’s a little bit like what Joe Biden is doing right now with his presidency. Joe Biden believes that he was elected president because he’s so talented and he’s so great and he’s well timed, et cetera, et cetera. He’s probably partly right. But there’s a lot of people that helped him get there that manage the system to get him there. That I think are turning on him that are saying, hey, it’s time to move on.
And I think Joe Biden’s like Nah, Nah, I’m the president. I mean, look, I’ve met people that end up as an executive. I knew a governor of Missouri well, I worked for him as chief of staff. I knew some of these presidents. There’s a point where some of these folks that are sort of in power and not just sort of, but that are in power. They they come to understand their own uniqueness, their own importance in a way that it’s very hard for other people to understand if you’re not, if you haven’t observed that up close, it’s just very hard to understand what I’m saying.
And so I don’t think Joe Biden is able, is capable of doing something other than saying I’m Joe Biden. I’m the president. I don’t care. If you think it’s weird or strange or corrupt that 10s of millions of dollars went from the Communist Chinese regime to the University of Pennsylvania in the months and years after I signed on. I don’t think it’s, I think you are just you, you you don’t understand. Because I’m Joe Biden I don’t have to worry about these documents I didn’t do anything wrong, I’m Joe Biden. Hey get outta here, get outta here! That’s how he acts. And that’s how he’s done it for decades.
And let’s be honest, he’s succeeded. Guys that you would think, would you know, as as. But I asked Barack Obama about it. He used to say, you know, if you want to see something really messed up, ask Joe Biden to do it. And so if you’re Joe Biden, you’re saying, hey, you guys judge me all you want, I keep succeeding and I’m not listening to you.
And so we’re headed into a situation where the special counsel will be digging into this, and you know, and and without the participation of this President, we’re not gonna get, it’s not gonna get resolution -forever. Forever.
And I believe that this is the most likely way that Joe Biden ends up not running for president. This will be a big part of the excuse because as I said before you can compare all you want. What Trump and Biden did except one aspect of it.
That is, you just shouldn’t lose focus. Trump was allowed to declassify anything by his own power. Biden had none of that power, so Trump may have done it wrong. He may have, actually, you know, not classified it the best way or been clear enough, but he didn’t write it down, but that’s, he had the power to do it. If he didn’t do it, that’s a different argument. That that gets a lot of the intent part of it out because he could say my intent or my my thing was to declassify. Joe Biden can’t do that, he just was taking what he wanted when he wanted to and he wasn’t gonna care what you said or What anyone else said. Or any, what? What what the law said.
And think about it. In boxes in the garage next to the Corvette, the vice president of the United States. On one level it’s very humanizing, right? It’s it’s like, oh, it’s normal guy. I Got some stuff from my, when I practiced law at a big law firm. I got some boxes still that they’re bouncing around and sometimes end up in the garage, sometimes end up in the basement so it’s a little bit like that. It’s very humanizing.
But remember the sanctimony of Biden over Trump’s Mar-a-Lago. The Trump’s home was raided 91 days before the fall election, nine days before the fall election they found out that Joe Biden had documents. No drama there, nothing happened there. Terrible, terrible injustice again. Bruce Fein said this in an interview.
The equal application of justice, you know? Sandy Berger, a number of other senior officials over the last few years have been, David Petraeus, They violated the classifications laws and they paid a heavy price, pleading guilty to crimes. And Joe Biden thinks he gets to get away with it. Again, not good. Not good for the country, more of the same in my opinion. That’s what you need to know, all right?
We will come back and we will, As I mentioned, we’ll talk with Thomas. We’ll get that Thomas Baker interview and then I’ll talk with With Todd Bensman.
Be right Back it’s Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report. Back in a moment.