The following is a transcript from the Pro America Report with Ed Martin.
Welcome, welcome. Welcome It’s Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report and the Joe Biden presidency continues. He’s not going anywhere. It looks like. And we’ll see what that means and does to his colleagues in the Democrat Party. Welcome, welcome.
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Alright, so here’s what I want to explain to you. And. Do it by way of a little bit of a story.
One of the fun things about my tenure at CNN a few years ago was that I was a contributor and I was almost always on a panel. And so when I was in studio, which was for most of the time that I was a contributor, they would fly me into New York City to be on these panels, and it would be me and the main host, and then at least one other. Sometimes it was 4. Sometimes it was like Anderson Cooper with four of us. And but in in general, there was at least. It always it wasn’t just me. one-on-one with the host. It was me, the host and one other. And then sometimes more and often when it was always it was one other that was opposite of me, right? So I’m generally conservative talking about at that time Donald Trump’s policies as president, and they would have opposition folks who would be in the opposite camp and sitting there.
One of the guys that I got to know and saw and probably was on the air with, I don’t know, not not, five times? Not not ten times. But five times, maybe six times, was Van Jones, Van Jones, who was in the Obama White House as an inside guy doing Green New Deal stuff. You may remember that he was brought into the Obama White House and then he was quickly pushed out, I think. His I don’t know. Somehow his positions on a number of things I don’t really remember, but he was. He became a lightning rod and he was pushed out.
But he’s very articulate. Very serious, bright guy, a very good communicator and has been for years now. Since that time in the Obama White House, which probably was ’09 or, ’10, excuse me, ’09 or ’10 or ’11. So it’s been a decade. Maybe 13-14 years that he’s been one of the more prominent voices on the Democrat left. And he’s hosted a show on CNN, and he’s written books and he’s done. He did something for a while where he was convening groups across the country. I don’t really know what it was, but he’s he’s good, he’s good. He’s. I mean, he’s too liberal and he’s his positions are wacky, but he’s good.
So it was always interesting to be on with him and he had a pipeline into the Democrat Party at the highest levels. He wasn’t only an Obama guy. Some people are sort of Obama, you know, guy or gal that seemed to be oh, that’s their main thing is promoting Obama. He didn’t seem to be that. He had as many ties, I think, into the Clinton, you know, kind of cabal and other things so he. He was very interesting to talk to and very interesting to listen to.
And when I listened to him I thought, OK, he’s he’s delivering a message that he’s either promoting amongst the Democrats, which sometimes was the case or he’s hearing among them.
And here’s one that happened in the last couple of days. Van Jones was on CNN and he said we’re running Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris for president. One way or the other. Now, what did he mean?
What he meant was even if Joe Biden won’t yield, won’t give in, won’t step aside, won’t step down from the nomination, they’re going to run Kamala Harris. They’re going to tell people that if you’re voting for Joe Biden, you know, yeah, he’s pretty tired. He’s pretty old and all, and maybe he’s not gonna. Well, that’s OK because it’s going to be Kamala. She’s going to become the president. So you have to vote for this ticket. And if you like old Joe, if he was good to you, if you think he’s the guy that was brought us here and you want to vote for him, fine. But if you think he’s too tired and too old, well, still vote for the Biden-Harris ticket because. It’s Kamala anyway.
And that’s what I think is going to happen. Because I don’t see any way now that Joe Biden is going to yield.
He has enough people saying hang in there. Mostly from the far left in his party and the Black Caucus, and in the chatter or not, the chattering class in the political class, consulting class, the people who like their jobs and like their access. They’re all saying hang in there. Hang in there. We can do it. You can do it. You’re the. You’re the guy that can beat Trump. His wife, obviously his son, they all think he should stay in there.
I don’t think you can move him. I don’t think you can move or remove him. And I don’t think that there’s pressure, you know. He’s had a press conference. He’s had interviews. He’s he hasn’t had a full press conference, but he’s had. He’s had a lot of different interactions and he looks worse and worse. But it’s not going to change what he feels. I don’t think. And the reality on the ground is that you can’t move him. You actually cannot force him out. And so if you now, if you realize that’s the reality. What do you do? And I think the Democrats are in the situation where you say, well, you you vote for Biden if you like him, the old guy, you know, keep him in there and you’re afraid of Trump and Ohh yeah, if you like Kamala, she’s gonna end up president anyway.
And so you’ve got the the the problem of her being the top of the ticket is sort of sort of lessened because she’s not really, at least by name. And I do think that that was a signal from Van Jones that that’s where it’s heading.
And if that’s where it’s heading, that’s why you saw Donald Trump in Doral in in Florida a few days ago. And he was he was, you know, speaking pointedly about Kamala Harris, the jobs she supposedly did when she was in the vice presidency. She was in charge of the border. Literally. She was assigned to be in charge of the border. You know the greatest crisis we’ve had in terms of our national sovereignty, probably since the civil war, and she was in charge of it, right. So this is, you heard Donald Trump pointing to her and pointing out what the problems are.
And you do see polling and the polling shows that she does a little better than Joe Biden. But amazingly, the poll, the most recent poll I saw. Was they polled how she did, Kamala Harris versus Trump. She did a little better than Biden versus Trump, but they also polled Hillary Clinton versus Trump and Hillary Clinton was doing a little bit better than Kamala Harris. So it I, but I just think it’s funny that they’re including Hillary. Can you imagine If you’re Kamala Harris and you’re saying who did that poll, who added the questions, who added the questions to check on Hillary. Why are you doing that? And I don’t think there’s any chance that Hillary can come back. But I think she wants to, as I’ve said before, presidential fever is something that you get when you’re the major party candidate, the nominee, or when you’re president. Either one. You never want to give, that you never want to stop being that. And in the case of Trump, for example, in the case of Al Gore, he was a major nominee and major party nominee, Mitt Romney, John McCain when he was alive, any one of them. After they’ve been the major party nominee, they just aren’t the same. They’re they have a presidential fever. And Hillary’s got that to the to the hilt. So I think she would like that, but I don’t obviously don’t think it’s gonna happen. So that’s where it’s headed. That’s where it’s headed.
And the polling out in the last 24 hours shows things like New York closing down to eight points, New York. It was 20 points 3 weeks ago, a month ago. Biden versus Trump, in other words, Trump is climbing in New York. He’s way ahead in Michigan and Wisconsin, way ahead in Nevada, Arizona. All of a sudden, the polling is becoming so difficult to even describe. How you could keep Biden in but again, I don’t think that there’s any way. I don’t think that there’s any way you can make him do it. I don’t think that there’s any, you’re seeing him say more and more things like, you know, people have told me that in the past, they told me, Joe, you can’t do it. You know, you’re damaged goods. You did this, that or the other thing. And I I still stood up there and I thought, I’m the one that stood up to Trump and fought and everybody else was saying, oh, you know, you can’t beat him. You know, you’re not going to do it. You’re not going to do it. I did it. I’m Joe Biden and then go back to your Oval Office and and just, you know, keep plugging along.
Here’s where it’s wild. Well, I think the numbers are going the right direction. You know, you’re seeing that, the polling, at least, I don’t think it’s a slam dunk for Donald Trump at all. Because I think the country is divided and it’s divided enough that in terms of the Electoral College and in terms of the states that matter, it could swing back and get really close.
And then the question is, you know, are there, will there be irregularities, legal or illegal? Will there be irregularities, legal or illegal? Will people be doing something with drop boxes in Wisconsin? Last week, the Wisconsin Supreme Court reversed course and said, Oh yeah, yeah, you can have drop boxes and you can do basically whatever you want. Katie, bar the doors.
And so the question becomes, what will the election look like? How will the election be run and can the election get tight enough that that will matter.
Right now it’s not. Right now it is too big to rig. Right now. It’s in Trump’s favor. Too big to rig and it’s going more and more that way. But that can change, and that can change easily, but I don’t think it’s going to change with Biden.
I think that Van Jones again, who speaks to the Democrat establishment some of the time, but also speaks for what the smart Democrats are thinking. And he’s basing his point, is exactly what I think the reality is. You know, we’re gonna be running Kamala, if if Biden steps aside, we’ll run her as the top of the ticket. If he won’t step aside, she’s basically gonna be the, you know, up next, and everyone’s gonna be thinking she’s up next soon.
And they’re half right.
And that might be the best of both worlds, because you don’t want to alienate the Biden supporters. Although I think they thought they move away pretty quickly. And you can’t certainly can’t jump over Kamala Harris to some of their candidate, you can’t jump the the obvious, you know African American woman historic and suddenly go that’s not the Democrat party has staked their whole system. Their whole way of operating on that kind of prejudice, that kind of discriminate, you know, it’s discrimination especially if you’re Gavin, Gavin Newsom, or someone who’s doesn’t happen to be a woman or an African American and you’re being told no, you’re not even eligible. It’s a crazy system.
But keep an eye on Van Jones when you see Van Jones saying something. He’s got a point usually. Often, he’s far, far too liberal. But he’s worth watching, especially on the politics and the dynamics in the Democratic Party. All right, that’s what you need tp know. We’ll take a break. It’s Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report back in a moment.
