The following is a transcript from the Pro America Report.
Welcome to the Pro America Report. I’m Ed Martin. Great to be together. Thank you for tuning in. Hey visit Proamericareport.com proamericareport.com. And there you can sign up for emails, you get updates and check in on all that’s going on in the next couple of days here on Rumble in the DC studio. Very special time.
John Schlafly will join me. John Schlafly is the oldest son, the oldest child, the Phyllis Schlafly son. Because tomorrow or Wednesday. We could debate this is the 60th anniversary of Phyllis Schlafly publishing the seminal text, A Choice Not an Echo, which most people from Ronald Reagan to Morton Blackwell, Richard Viguerie, many of the lions of the conservative movement have agreed, was the definitive text early on in the conservative movement or one of a couple. So we’ll talk about that with John Schlafly. And he’ll be with us.
We get an update in a few moments from Paul Ingrassia. Who has been now He’s got a press pass. And he is inside the courtroom in New York City at the Donald Trump trial, and actually even more interesting, we’ll see how he how he pulled this off last week after the trial, either after. I think it was after the trial, President Trump visited a construction site and when he went across the rope line of where they were holding people back. President Trump reached out his hand and shook hands with Paul Ingrassia. We’ll find out how he got there and what he knows about that.
So, but first, we’ve got to cover what you need to know. You know, we begin every program. With what we call the WYNK, what you need to know, and as we sit here and talk about what you need to know, I I often use the title of the entire program. We’ve talked about it here in the Rumble in the DC Studio of Rumble. My colleague Dylan helps as we get ready. I said look, the the title for today is the high cost or the cost of lawfare. The cost of lawfare, and there’s lots of ways to look at that.
If you think about the cost to Dean Eastman, the very well regarded Professor and lawyer, he’s been going through, you know hell and back over bar complaints. Sidney Powell had to spend millions of dollars, I believe, to defend herself in lawsuits and bar complaints. Closer to home, somebody I know very well. Jeff Clark, the you know again. Harvard undergrad, Georgetown Law, one of the sharpest lawyers around, gives the president of the United States advice and is then has bar complaints against him. Is is joined in this litigation.
Last week, we saw the Attorney General of Arizona file another lawsuit, this time indicting, I don’t know, over a dozen 18 people with others who are unindicted co-conspirators, everybody from Rudy Giuliani to to Donald Trump and and the reason is because. That group of people had the idea to do what had been done in 2000, to do what had been advocated by everybody from John Podesta to Hillary Clinton, which was get an alternate slate of electors in case. The facts of the election in the state turned out to be so off base that the the that the US Constitution, its guidance would say that Congress should pick a different set of people to be electors.
That’s happened in the past. And when there’s a dispute over electors and a dispute over elections. It’s happened in the last 20 years. In advocacy by the people like Hillary Clinton and others, and so look, the high cost of lawfare, we’ll only really begin to capture that over the next 25 or 30 years in terms of actual costs, what happens in, in, in paying for lawyers and and lost wages, but also impact on people.
Which brings me to this and and this. This is where I want to go with this.
The high cost of lawfare. One of the ways that this is so effective by the left, by the evil people that want to do this to our country is that it damages the reputation of people who have special standing in the community. They, in other words, they they they use these kinds of slurs and smears. And they frankly use them only against people who matter. If you don’t matter, they don’t bother.
So if you think about Sidney Powell, Sidney Powell had both the foresight to write a book. The book is called Licensed to Lie, and it describes how Andrew Weissman and others prosecutors misuse their office, misused their power, and misused what was supposed to be the American way. Against the people, to the detriment of of individuals and shareholders and others, Sidney Powell did that.
Then Sidney Powell took on a client, Mike Flynn, and she said Mike Flynn, I can. They’re they’re they’re giving you bad advice. I’m a I’m a professional high end lawyer, Sidney Powell. And I’ll help you, General Flynn. And she got General Flynn out from under his lawfare. They did the same thing to Flynn. General Flynn and that his movie that Flynn the movie is out I think it’s Flynnmovie.com is out is extraordinary history now of targeting General Flynn. I know up close, hundreds of thousands of dollars. It cost him devastation inside his own family.
The the the cost of lawfare and they only target the people who are succeeding, who are valuable because I’m trying to take them off the field.
Tucker Carlson. They try to take Tucker Carlson off the playing field off the field of battle of ideas and everything else and it works. But they only come by the way. Again, say it again. The lawfare is aimed at people who matter, people who can make a difference, and that brings me to this.
I have a friend of mine and I think she’ll be on the show next week. Cynthia Hughes. She runs Patriot Freedom Project. I’m. I’m actually. I help her on that. I I hope. It’s a an organization that raises money to help the defendants of January 6th, but especially their families. Extraordinary leader Cynthia Hughes and extraordinary effort of Patriot Freedom Project. It’s been awesome to to to be a part of a PatriotFreedomProject.com.
But Cynthia was at an event over the the the weekend and she was describing to me how she came into this event and there was there was. All kinds of luminaries, all kinds of famous people, and she who is from New Jersey and and has grown up well in law enforcement. Her father was a cop. Her husband’s a cop. And she, you know, she’s a she’s a New Jersey, sort of a classic, you know, American. And she said when she walked into this room at this event, Commissioner Kelly was there, you know, the Commissioner who got a. Lot of the. Credit for cleaning up New York, along with the the person I’m going to mention.
And so, Cynthia said she saw across the room Rudy Giuliani. Now there is nobody in this country except a guy named Donald J Trump. There is nobody, in my opinion, who has been targeted more than Rudy Giuliani by the lawfare, by the left, by the media. And it has taken a high cost. It is the the the cost to Rudy Giuliani. Not only he, you know, he’s he, he’s not bankrupt, he’s nearly bankrupt. They bankrupted him. Because why? Because he’s –
Let me go back. Rudy Giuliani was regarded in his time as one of the great prosecutors in in American history. In the time that he was a prosecutor, he addressed the problems of the mafia, problems of corruption in New York City and the in the in the in the Southern District of New York, where he was a US attorney, he was considered not only really smart and really talented, but fearless. He had true courage.
And then when New York was spiraling out of control like it is now, again, my friend was in New York and she said that on on every almost every other corner, there’s a group of migrants. And you don’t know what to make of them. You don’t know what’s going on. It’s this is supposed to happen, by the way In Milan, Italy gave up on their immigration rules 30 years ago. You go to Milan. I was there two years ago, three years ago. Right outside the train station, there’s a there’s an African colony built, but New York is spiraling out of control.
Now, when it was spiraling out of control, Rudy Giuliani ran for mayor, won, and changed the whole course of the of the of the city of New York.
And then 9/11 happened, and he was America’s mayor, and he held things together. And now he’s been. And then he became a high, high-powered lawyer. You know, back in practicing law, giving advice, leading corporations, leading individuals, helping Donald Trump, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
And he was targeted. He’s always been targeted. Once. He once he showed that he could be a a player in politics they wanted to destroy him and they just don’t don’t let him up off the mat. It’s incredible. It’s completely unfair, and while I I will join the chorus about how terrible what they’ve done to Donald Trump is.
What you need to know is Rudy Giuliani is one of the great American heroes of the last 25 or 30 years, extraordinary leader in the bluest of blue cities, with the most corruption and the most broken systems. He led and cleaned it up. He led and said you can have a better way of life and when. We got hit. And that city got devastated, and so the country he led and said we can get up, we can keep going. We can make this better.
And what they have done to him by the lawfare attacks is unprecedented. And I don’t know as I as I I walked over, we’re talking, John Schlafly and I, the the litany of of things against Rudy they’ve they’ve sued him for his law. They sued him for what he said as a lawyer they sued him for what he said as a public figure they tried to take away his bar License they on and on and on and on. And I have to tell you, we have to have, we have to. We must have. Accountability for the people who have been doing this to a guy like Rudy Giuliani.
What you need to know is we cannot say that’s mean, that’s terrible and leave it alone. We have to go and find the people who’ve done this and hold them accountable. It has to happen. That’s what you need to know.
We got to take a break. We’ll come back in a few moments with Paul Ingrassia. Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report back In a moment.
