The following is a transcript from the Pro America Report.
Welcome. Welcome, welcome. It’s Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report . Welcome to the Pro America Report. For a super duper duper show. Today we’ve got some great guests and Umm. Well, I don’t even know how to say I don’t know how to talk about parts of this, I will.
So we we have Joel Pollak, the guy’s phenomenal, incredible. He’s got a a biography, he’s written about his mother-in-law which sounds like Ohh who writes a a biography about your mother-in-law. Unless, there’s gotta be a way to say like what’s an antibiography, but it’s a very nice biography. His mother-in-law is a famous famous political activist in South Africa. And she’s incredible. And her life is incredible. He wrote this book about her. She passed away about a year plus ago, and so it’s very cool. Joel Pollak is phenomenal, breitbart.com.
And also we’ll talk with David Horowitz, who has yet another book. David Horowitz has another book. And it’s another I think he told me that he told me that they’ll sell, they plan to sell a million copies. I mean, David Horowitz is selling books. The last four books. He’s done is by Humanix. Humanex is a publisher headed by the founder of of, Chris Ruddy of Newsmax and, and so David Horowitz has done four books over the last, say, five years or so and one after another just been huge sellers. It’s been incredible, and so he’s got a new book. It’s called Final Battle: Why the next election could be the last, so we’ll talk with him.
Now the reason I started to say that is I had a conversation earlier on Thursday I I went out to see Richard Viguerie the famous Richard Viguerie who is in his late 80s and is more more spry and energetic and conniving and planning. I mean it as a compliment than anybody who’s 50 years younger and it’s phenomenal to be with him. He’s an amazing guy. And he was. He was a very close friends with my old boss, the late Phyllis Schlafly, and she just admired him. And actually, I went out to. See him in part because I just wanted to be around him. I’ve heard so much about him. I know him over the years, but I thought, you know, this is somebody that it’s just amazing to talk to. He wrote a book a few. Months ago called Go Big: the marketing secrets of Richard A. Viguerie. He’s been an incredible smash success at marketing and direct mail and other things, so that was really fun. And he’s got a perspective on the history things.
One of the things about the perspective. Of time of history is seeing the length of the field of battle or the field of engagement and one of the things that I’m so interested in is how the pro-life community moves forward. I’ve talked about this before, but you know at the March for Life on Friday in Washington, DC. That’s the place where hundreds of thousands up to millions would gather in order to voice their displeasure with Roe V Wade and Doe V Bolton.
This completely made up right to privacy and right to abortion. Just it just didn’t exist in the Constitution before 1973 when, when and as I often say to tell you ah Clarke Forsythe, The amazing lawyer who has been with the the Americans United for Life for decades. Clarke Forsythe. His book, called Abuse of Discretion. Published in 2013. Abuse of discretion. The inside story of Roe V Wade. If you read that Clarke went in, Clarke D. Forsythe went in and looked at the bench memos from the US Supreme Court from the Roe V Wade Court. And basically what you see in the memos, memorandums, notes, all that that was finally released to the public in about 2010, 2011. You see they made it up. They made-up a right to privacy and a right to abortion, just made it up. And they made it up as a politically expedient decision, and for 50 years it was a curse, a a real weight on the country. And and the March for life in Washington DC. And in most communities. Many, many communities, many cities Saint Louis, where I’m from used to have a big March for life, other cities. Well, this this was the around the anniversary of 1973 late January where Roe V Wade, Doe V Bolton was decided and this year it’s been wiped away. The the Dobbs decision wiped it away. Reversed it.
And so the the question for Richard Viguerie and others is what now? What next? You know what happens next? What happens next in in the world of pro-life? Now this is gone the the battle over life is not over. In fact, my friend Bridget VanMeans of Thrive Nation. She has talked often about how Planned Parenthood has already targeted the digital sphere sphere for getting to the women that are pregnant, the mothers and trying to target them.
And that what you need to know is that Planned Parenthood, the abortion interests, and I mean it that way, the people that are interested in abortion happening and happening frequently. They are not sitting around going, oh. Wow, we lost. In fact, they used the COVID pandemic. As a way to make it so they could mail. Through the mail, the abortion drugs which was was was not allowed before COVID and then they used the COVID where there was a great push to have more and more telemedicine so that you didn’t have to see a patient in the presence of a doctor and have a patient drive to the doctor’s office, get out of the car, walk in, see a receptionist, then see a nurse, then see the doctor. And you’d end up people getting COVID, so telemedicine. So the forces that are interested. And what you need to know is, I’m saying that intentionally, the forces that have an interest, generally pecuniary, generally money. But also electoral and votes, campaigns, they have not been sitting around going. Oh wow oh, this is really tough. Wow, you know we’re we’re losing that legal argument? Roe V, Wade, Doe V Bolton. No, they have been redoubling their forces.
I remember Bridget VanMeans up on Capitol Hill again from Thrive Nation and we were meeting with a Congressman and she was talking about how the, how the Planned Parenthood folks had shifted had shifted, had objected, in some states. Particularly to the use of the word fetal remains, the so-called fetal remains laws, because they didn’t want people to think of the baby as a baby, they wanted it to be tissue, and so fetal remains laws which would allow people to bury those remains and treat them like humans that they are. They didn’t like that Planned Parenthood that that that’s interesting enough powerful enough.
But Bridget went on further and talked about the reality. Of Planned Parenthood announcing that they’re moving to digital, they’re not even going to try. They’re not going to worry about trying to get women into abortion clinics. They will, if they can in places like California or New York. But mostly they’re gonna use digital. They’re gonna get access to the women. The mothers through digital through digital social media and otherwise through sophisticated means. And then use telemedicine and and and abortion drugs. It’s a whole new world.
So the March for life, the marches for life across the country. The celebration of pro-life. It’s almost like it’s a movement that needs to redouble. Now I’ve told you before we talked about it last week, one of the the the the, the refocus, maybe better than redouble a refocus. A refocus should be on the mother. That’s Bridget VanMeans teaching me emphasizing that to me. Focus on the mother. Before you say it’s a life you got a mother who’s who’s watching her life be turned upside down and is scared and lonely and worried and and seeing dreams go away. And seeing relationships torn asunder and and seeing things fractured and seeing a sense of self be diminished. The mother is the starting point. And what you need to know is the pro-life movement’s got to adjust because the culture. Big tech, big media. And big government, the narrative machine and the culture drives a message that’s very anti-life, pro abortion.
Alright, that’s what you need to know. We’ll come back. We will talk in a moment with Joel Pollak and then David Horowitz. Great program. Join me. It’s Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report. Back in a moment.
