The following is a transcript from the Pro America Report with Ed Martin.
Welcome, Welcome, welcome. It’s Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report. Great to be together. A lot, happening, a lot happening, a lot happening. Holy cow. So many things to cover.
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So OK, today I’ve been thinking about this and trying to get myself around a way to describe another aspect of the lawfare and let me see if I can do this.
OK and welcome, by the way. It’s Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report. You know, I want to encourage you. Rumble also has created a television show I do, The Pro America Report as a one hour show, and it’s in the DC Studio of Rumble. Fantastic place, great people. You can go to Go to Rumble and search for Pro America Report or Eagle Ed Martin, both of those, but Pro America Report and get there and watch. This is great. Cynthia Hughes from the Patriot Freedom Project is gonna be a guest. We’ve been getting updates from what I call Biden Court, the Biden courthouse. Where they’re trying President Trump, the lawfare from Paul Ingrassia gives us an update from there. So a lot happening and you can watch it there. We great couple of interviews with the authors, Mike Waller of Big Intel and John Schlafly about A Choice not an Echo. The seminal book that his mother wrote. So proamericareport.com sign up there for the WYNK. And on Rumble go to the Pro America Report channel and check it out. So here’s the thing.
Many years ago I was practicing law at a major law firm, a big law firm and. And the reason it’s important to know. It’s a big law firm is because the big law firms get the big clients. And I was in litigation. I was in the in the commercial litigation department. I was just a, a, a relatively new lawyer. I think I had clerked already, but I was relatively new and so there I was working and I was doing like, I mean basically doing sophisticated document review, I mean not even sophisticated half the time, but we
The case was about The contamination of the ground and groundwater by an oil refinery up on the Mississippi River.
And we, the law firm I was at, were defending the the successor company who owned the refinery at the time. And so the suits, the suit was a a plaintiffs action A, you know, class action might have been a class action. Can’t remember if it was a class action or just a a plaintiffs action against the law firm. I mean against the the predecessor company. So you know, if you own in fact this happens on a a more manageable level to understand if you if you buy a building and the building was once a a gas station you the new owner will be held liable for any of the contamination that might have happened back in time. Now there’s ways you can mitigate that. Etcetera. But just that simple simplifying. So the successor company company for the refinery that we represented at this law firm where, they were on the hook.
And these cases go on forever. There’s massive amounts of of discovery, there’s incredible amounts of money spent on environmental testing, environmental studies on all this kind of stuff. It goes on forever.
And at one point, I said to a partner at the firm. You know, why doesn’t this settle? And he laughed and he said, well, we all need the membership of the Country Club paid for. He was joking. Sort of, but basically on both sides of these cases are major, major law firms the the the class action lawyers and the plaintiffs Lawyers of these kinds of cases are massive themselves. They’re huge operations because they have to go on for years and they have to go and spend lots of money.
And so on both sides of this case are massive Amounts of money spent on lawyers.
It reminds me of one of the cases every now and then you might get it in the mail. You’ll be mentioned in a class action and you’ll look at the class action. It had to do with something like one one time. I think my wife and I were on a class action on about cell phones and and our award was, you know, $0.25 or $0.30 cause everyone in the class got a little bit of money. But if you added up the class of 50 million people or some number. It turned into real money. So the law, the lawyers in these cases, both the plaintiffs lawyers and the defense lawyers get paid millions. And the class by the time you parse it out, get paid little $1.25 cents $0.50. And that’s that’s part of a racket.
OK, part of the problem with Lawfare is that the system of legal pursuit of justice has allowed the industry of lawyering to become a a kind of racket where both sides are making lots of money and both sides are employing lots of people.
Now you can say up in New York. Donald Trump’s lawyers are getting paid millions and millions of dollars. He’s got 5, 6, 7 lawyers. He’s got law firms working all the time, research, motions.
And you say on the other side, well, there there may be 5, 6,10, 15, 20 lawyers, but they’re not getting paid millions of dollars. But they are because the, the the industry Of lawfare includes all these people who get really good jobs, who get really good pay when they’re government workers, they get really good retirement and really good pension and a really good system. They’re not accountable in the in the way a law firm is, so they’re not usually laid off, they’re not fired much.
So the system has become a racket.
And what you need to know about Lawfare Is that it’s it’s a a symptom, also of the deterioration of the American legal system into a racket where if you wanna survive, you gotta spend a lot of money. If you wanna protect yourself, you gotta spend a lot of Money. And the system has encouraged that by what?
Well, one aspect is by not holding accountable the system. And making people that start these lawsuits somehow be the ones that pay. In other words, if it was true that when you, you sued and and if the if the case. Was adjudicated your way? If you were the winner, you got paid back all your legal fees. This happens sometimes in certain kinds of cases, but not usually. Then it would change the dynamic right?
If I sued you for $100 and whoever won that case was not only gonna either get the $100 or not get the $100, but the other side, the losing side was gonna have to pay the legal bills. That would be a big deal. That doesn’t happen enough. There are some cases that does happen there where there are attorneys fees awarded, but not enough. Not enough because the System has been set up in such a way that it gets paid and and and everybody gets paid.
And this is true by the way, especially of the family court. Also family courts now massive amounts of money in the family courts deciding where children go foster care adoption. Everything else. Lots of court appointed Guardians court appointed Supervisors, court appointed psychologists, court appointed court appointed, court appointed. Appointed. Massive industry around the legal system.
It doesn’t create value and more importantly, it is manipulated by the people with power and over time the people with power. Have generally, over time, this is an argument we could have a different time, but but institutions become more liberal, not less. They go, they don’t become more conservative, they become more liberal and government entities become more about government and more about increasing government power than less.
So one aspect of the lawfare that we’re seeing is 10s of millions of dollars and the news has come out that Joe Biden is going to have close to $3 billion to run his reelection campaign, mostly because of dark money come from corporations, mostly because of Citizens United.
And Donald Trump is gonna have a fraction of that, maybe a billion if he gets there. But Donald Trump is spending Literally hundreds, hundreds of millions of dollars not in his campaign, but on his legal defense.
And someone if someone says Ohh well, he should have to pay for that himself, that’s crazy. He’s only being this only happening to him because he is running for office. It’s because he was president. So it’s only fair, but it’s crazy. You talk about election interference and so back to my point.
If it’s true that under Trump. If it’s true that under Trump.
Ohh, another example, by the way, the Mueller investigation, what end up costing 30 million dollars, $40 million.The January 6th Select Committee cost seventeen $18 million, that’s what it cost. That’s all paid, lots of lots of lawyers paid lots of consultants, paid lots of people paid related to illegal entity related to lawfare. And so the reality is the system is breaking.
The lawfare part of this is breaking. It’s an it’s it’s a symptom of the legal system, broadly speaking and it’s breaking. Ohh and that’s that’s my point.
If during the Trump administration. We saw that the media actually did better because they ginned up all this crisis and anti Trump hate and they let lots of people paying attention, the New York Times had more subscribers, right, the the digital subscriptions blew up, they got got tons of tons of people paid attention. CNN was doing better. After Trump’s out of office. They’ve all gone way, way Down.
It’s the same thing in some ways with the lawfare, the lawfare, there, there was more money spent in 2020 on what I would call a a version of Lawfare, meaning fighting the fight through legal means, maybe not illegal, maybe not formally rigging or illegally rigging, but certainly using the legal system. Lawsuits. Influencing the legal system for the purpose, the Democrats admitted this of changing the rules during COVID and everything else. Lawfare and the cost. Is distorting our system dramatically. Dramatically, and it’s not going Away. Because the people with power are making lots of money off of that system.
Alright, we gotta take a break. I’m Ed Martin. It’s the Pro America Report. Visit ProAmericaReport.com. That’s the WYNK. Be right back.