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Welcome, Welcome, welcome. It’s Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report. Great to be with you. Thank you for tuning in. Interesting. Interesting times all around us.
I just got off the phone, actually, with somebody who’s talking about this FISA bill. The reauthorization of FISA. Nobody really understands it. I think most of us wonder exactly why we have to give this Kind of what feels like sweeping authority to the government, especially to law enforcement. I this is a moment where the Distrust. Then verify, reality. The reality that we cannot trust our government. Therefore we have to distrust them, to start and then verify. It feels like that’s what we’re living with. And I don’t know how. These members of Congress are gonna justify re-upping reauthorizing this FISA stuff to the voter, but I guess they’re gonna try to force it through. So we shall see. But a lot going on, a lot happening.
Interesting guest today we will talk in a few moments with Katie Gorka. She’s got a new book. On she calls it NextGen. NextGen Marxism and what’s going on, which is interesting, very persuasive lady, very capable, longtime national security leader and also worked in a high level at Heritage Foundation.
We’ll also talk with Dr. Donna Van Natten, who has a book on how body language and can tell you a lot about people, especially candidates. Very, very interesting book and very interesting lady. We’ll talk with her in a few moments.
But first let me see if I can set this up for you. I I, I I want to hit on this because I’ve seen it very closely. Many of you know and have heard me talk about the Polish think tank / law firm called Ordo Iuris. Ordo Iuris is based in Poland. Founded in Poland, headquartered in Warsaw, and it is the kind of a halfway, it’s kind of half a law firm and half a think tank, meaning that half of what they do is actually in the legal system, litigate to protect families and pro-life positions and conservative positions. Should be clear Ordo Iuris is conservative, very Christian, conservative and and half of what they do is they litigate actually in court and in the regulatory world as well as advising on legislation and the other Half is kind of a think tank thinking Bigly thinking in a large way broadly about what’s going on. They have a a document that they released, Ordo Iuris did, about a month or two ago on sovereignty and the fact is that there’s a major sovereignty. Grab going on in Europe by the European Union and so they wrote this lengthy analysis. They. Do a lot. Of reports, analyses.
And one of the things that has happened in Poland in the last year, less than a year really is that the government has switched. From a Conservative government to a more liberal government, more specifically from a very pro Polish sovereignty, Poland first mentality and somewhat conservative to a very globalist, pro EU and therefore liberal on a lot of issues. A government that was. That’s the guy, Donald Tusk, who actually was one of the top leaders of the European Union. Formally, you know in, in, in a formal way. And and now is the the Prime Minister in Poland. He’s gone about challenging almost every position that the Polish people have wanted and accepted. In my opinion, you could say he won the election, but I think there was after almost a decade of of the Conservative more Conservative Party in power. I think the Polish people just wanted to change and then they were. Perhaps fooled into thinking this would work, but here’s where Ordo Iuris is interesting and and another aspect of what they do.
There has been a coming together. There. Of the pro-life movement. And and the conservative Ordo Iuris organization to sort of fit together. And so not just litigating pro-life cases, protecting pro-life health professionals, not only those kinds of things, but also now leading the public expressions, the public identification of the issues of pro-life. Especially with pro-life marches across Poland, which is what’s happening in the last couple of days, pretty extraordinary.
And here’s what I have to tell you the, It is true. One observation is this: The Polish leadership. The excuse me, the Polish conservative movement is now up against the Prime Minister, the ruling party, and it is often true. Not always, but often true that it is. Easier to make the contrast clear when you’re the opposition party. If you if you talk to some conservatives, they’ll say there was nothing better than the the the days of of of Barack Obama and what he was doing because people, the Conservatives, could be the opposition party or the opposition voice and get lots of attention, raise lots of money. So Ordo Iuris has stepped up into this and said, look, we’re going to be for lots of reasons that has to do with their own history. They are a group that has never taken, that has never taken government money and the European experience and the European nations, there is a great tradition of nonprofits getting money from the government and and if you, you know, if you’re, if you’re a favored one you get lots, if you’re in unfavored, you get less, but it’s kind of what everybody does. And so when the political party, when the political winds shift. You may be left out with not much there. That’s what happened to a lot of groups not to Ordo Iuris. So back to Ordo Iuris. They’re they’re the reality here.
They they got one part of it that they’re the opposition. But two, they actually have these coalitions anyway. So there’s not just two parties. There are at least three or four or five depending on what nation you’re talking about. In Poland, five or six that have little slices, there are two major parties, but then they’re little slices around and you can influence. The party structure and the positions of the party in some ways more easily, if less effectively. What do I mean by that? Well, you can get some of the smaller parties to say, hey, we’re gonna be more pro-life. We’re gonna have these positions, but they may not have an impact. They may only hold a few seats in the parliament. They may not have as big an impact as the. A situation where the two major parties in, say, America, so a lot is happening.
Here’s what I want to let you know and what you need to know is the the movement that is happening across the world. And we’re feeling and seeing it in America is happening in other places. Last weekend, there was an election in Poland. The local elections, meaning like county level and state Rep level elections. And the more Conservative party PIS. Won a narrow victory over the more Liberal Party. Now what does that mean?
Well, it part of the analysis is that the the cities. Went for the more Liberal Party and the rural and the country went for the more Conservative party. That sounds a little bit like America, where you have the the blue cities and then you have the red states or the red counties or the red places. But. But here’s, here’s what you need to know.
All across the world, all across the world, when you look at the numbers, the, the, the growing force is what I would call center, right? Meaning. Populist conservatives on the right.
Now the the media will call them far right and extremists and all that. It’s not true. It’s a it’s it’s it’s people that are saying what they feel is a disconnection from who’s in power, that the powerful are either corrupt or just out of touch or both. And you see this happening in places like Germany, where the more conservative parties are ascended. You see it in Italy, where the more conservative parties are ascended. The real canary in the coal mine in the next year or two will be what happens in France, where the polling looks like the more conservative. Party. Parties, more than one, have gained, but we’ll see. That’s just the polling early on. That’s not the election, but certainly it’s a more, more and more and I would say this.
I believe that the reason for all of this. Is that the centralization of power Is less effective than ever because of the ability of the people to get information.
Meaning if you can’t know what’s happening in Washington, DC or Brussels because there is no way to communicate, then you can’t know. But if you can know, and if it’s relatively low cost. You’re going to be upset with what you’re seeing. That’s what’s happening, which, which brings me to the the the real reason. That you’re seeing changes. In so-called censorship or managing information, it’s because what has been what has what has become. Clear is that the centralizing authorities, whether in Brussels, in Washington, DC, in Berlin, in Warsaw, you whether they’re more local, you know like a capital of a nation like I just mentioned or these multi national entities, the the centralization of power. Is not working as well as they expected and they want it. And therefore they have to try to choke off what they think is stopping it, which is the information flow because you can’t get away with Stupid stuff at the European Union. In Brussels, like you used to, it’s known too fast. You can’t get away with what’s happening in the swamp. It’s known too fast, so you better shut down the way it’s known. Shut down. The way people get the information, the channels of communication, and that’s what you’re seeing, whether it’s in Brazil, whether it’s in America, whether it’s in Europe. The move to censor and stop the free flow of information because the information in this case is power to stand up to the centralizing bureaucrats. That’s what you need To know.
Alright, we gotta take a break. We’ll be right back. It’s Ed Martin here at the Pro America Report. Don’t forget. Go to go to proamericareport.com and sign up there. Be right back.
