The following is a transcript from the Pro America Report
Welcome, welcome. Welcome, Ed Martin here on the Pro America Report. Great to be together and a lot to cover today.
Some exciting news. Very exciting news actually. I have to tell you that I am a periodic listener of Scott Adams daily. He does a daily sort of talk a 30 to 45 minute talk. And he used to do it on Periscope. Now he does it on YouTube and Periscope. And today I happened to tune in to his uh on YouTube and umm, so I’m listening. Kind of it’s funny. He, I listen to him almost as background noise and so I’m listening in and there I am and I get through the I get through in about halfway through his thing and I hear him say, Ed Martin had a good tweet. Ed Martin had a good tweet. And so he went on and he had noticed my tweet, which I did actually tag him on. And my tweet is what we’ve been talking about. But this is the most important thing I can tell you. It’s so important, I’m going to do this whole segment on this. I want you to understand.
We’re going to have great guests today on the program here. We’ll talk with Todd Bensman, who’s got a new book out. He’s also writing incredibly well. Over at the Center for Immigration Studies, he’s super. We’ll also have Dr. Brett Decker on today, so we got a lot to cover and we’ll do all that.
But I want you mostly to be thinking about the simple fact. Excuse me. I won’t. It’s not Dr. Brett Decker. It’s Fred Zielonko. Fred Zielonko. Who is a great friend of mine who’s going to have a comment or two on Rush Limbaugh. We’re going to continue that effort to to kind of spend some time talking with with folks about Rush Limbaugh and the power of Rush Limbaugh. So OK, but back this is what I want to talk about. I want it’s so important.
The Nancy Pelosi Capitol insurrection hoax. And this is the tweet that I tweeted and and this is what uh Scott Adams noticed. My tweet went like this: the Russia hoax, which was a lie about elections, the 2016 election, in which and and the media, big tech, big media and big government, the Mueller report dragged on and made it, they made the lie about elections, a truth. That’s the Russia hoax. And then I said that’s about elections. The other one though, in the last four years was what’s called the Fine People hoax, where the media and the big tech and the left lied about what Donald Trump said. He did not say that the white supremacists or not, neo Nazis, were fine people. He said the opposite. He condemned them. But the message, the hoax was, the lie was white supremacy is what the people of the Republican Party like. And that hoax, that lie became a truth and had it had an effect, it had an effect, has an effect on lots of people. So you have two great hoaxes in the last four years. One the Russia hoax about elections, the election of 2016. It was a lie, and the other, the fine people hoax, which was a lie about white supremacy. And it was a lie. And it was though, both of them very effective because of the power of big tech, big media, and of course, big government, the big, the left and the use of government use of their power. You take those two together and combine them, or, as I said, jokingly kind of said, if they if they went and had children, the child would be the instant capitol insurrection hoax, because the capitol insurrection hoax is based on the two ideas that you can’t protest the election of November 3rd. You must be crazy. And if you’re being told to protest, you’re really part of the cabal, the insurrection. And by the way, those are white supremacists.
Listen now, neither one of these lies are true, but they are packaged up together, and the capitol insurrection hoax, which is Nancy Pelosi’s doing. It’s so far very effective. It has the ability to make the American people think terribly about Republicans. It has the ability of distracting Trump supporters or anyone. From asking any serious questions about what exactly has happened to the country with regard to the election, the November 3rd election. What exactly happened? We’re not even allowed to get a look at what happened.
And so we’re watching the capitol insurrection hoax of Nancy Pelosi being used to do 2 things very effectively. One it is marginalizing the American people, marginalizing Republicans or Trump supporters in the eyes of the American people, and over time that has an effect, people begin to step back from support for a candidate, a party, or something that has such negative things associated with it, right? That’s. That’s a reality.
And #2 it distracts or inoculates you from going backwards to cover what is the actual question. What happened on November 3rd? There’s no question what happened at the Capitol. A bunch of people were protesting and a few of them got out of hand and all the rest of it is a lie. There’s not a mystery there. There is a mystery to what happened on November 3rd. Why did certain jurisdictions stop counting in the middle of the night? What’s the answer for that? Why is somebody not giving us the answer for why a half a dozen jurisdictions in very key places stop counting? Anyway, my point is back to the back to the capitol insurrection hoax.
We’re watching the narrative machine, and I was just having a conversation with a friend of mine. She’s very savvy. She’s a very savvy policy person, but she’s she really understands messaging and I was on the phone with her. She lives down in Florida, I think where I’m up in Virginia. So there’s ice everywhere. I think. I don’t think she has any ice down there, but somehow we were losing our phone connection. But before we got disconnected. I was, we were talking about this and I I was describing and she’s very good at crystallizing my ramblings and we’re as we’re talking. And when we finished this, I don’t know 15 minute discussion. I’ve I came away more amped up than ever that the narrative machine: big tech, rewiring our brains, big media, teaching us to be agitated and return, and MSNBC, CNN, Fox News model, and then big government. They’re they’re taking away from us the chance in this case to even get to the truth. And when you look at different pieces of the November 3rd, the post-November 3rd actions, you just get these snippets of, that seem like crazy. People, you get Kraken, you get you get this. You get that. You get all these things and you get losing. Losing, they say losing. We aren’t even getting any of the facts, and we’re we’re not getting the facts in such a way. In other words, we’re being left, we’re being bereft of the facts. We’re being being, you know, kept from getting the bottom that it’s almost impossible to feel confident about the election.
And what I was saying to my friend and what I think I’ve said to you is what we have to have is we have to have and take the time to pull back from the narrative machine that’s trying to drag us towards the the insurrection, the great capitol insurrection of January 6th, as engineered or as described by Pelosi, pull back from that, and say, OK, what is it about November 3rd that we can assess? Is there a way to cut through all the extra stuff and pull out all of the true nuggets to understand it?
And the reason why, by the way, is not to change the Constitution or remove the President I, I, we’re past that. We do have a system that gives us stability. It’s the envy of the world. We went through that process. I always said that. There’s no time for for debating that. But.
We have a system that relies on the confidence of the people. If the people don’t believe that our elections work because the system has been so poorly run and we’ve been forced to look past the concerns, well then we have a problem.
And as I used to say, when I was at the Board of Elections in St. Louis, there’s two questions. I ran the board for two years. There’s two things.
Two goals you have to have: Run a good system, run a good election system. That takes hard work and good people, and then build the confidence of the people in your community that they want to vote, that they believe it counts, that the system is good for them.
Right now we have a system that people, large swaths of the country believe is not serious and not, and we’re being held back. By the narrative machine from getting to the bottom of it.
And and so my point is, we, we do need to get to the bottom of the facts, not to change the president, but to see what really happened.
And then we need to assess what we can do to change the confidence. Because a lot of the reforms of the past and I’ll go back to after 2000.
After 2000, Bush v Gore, you saw the Help America Vote Act that was passed in the next two or three years. It basically threw money at the problem and money will often help, but it often masquerades and masks the real underlying problem so, the Help America Vote act, in some ways it threw money at the problem, let people get upgrades from systems where they were using punch cards and hanging chads, but they got themselves into a situation where they were relying on new software systems that people had never seen and worked with before. And it’s been a kind of ongoing challenge.
They also federalized a bunch of the issues in order to get the money for the Help America Vote Act, local jurisdictions had to sign on to the sort of rules of the game and some of that stuff wasn’t very good. You know, wasn’t easy to manipulate. You know there’s rules under the Help America Vote Act in federal laws you can’t remove people, I think this is still true. You can’t remove people from the voting rolls, in a federal election, in a federal manner for two full elections, so almost two plus years because of the federal law. Well, if you’re running an election board in the city of St. Louis, for example, you have an incredibly high number of people that move out. It, it’s some incredible number, like the average number of moves in the in a year are like 40% of the population move because it’s a relatively it’s a relatively transient population. Well, if you can’t remove them from the voting rolls when they move out of St. Louis, into another jurisdiction, and then they move back and they move, it gets to be really you’re hamstrung.
So, what I did in that tweet that Scott Adams noticed, which was great and my friend and I were talking about, was messaged what was happening in a way that people could understand it. And conservatives have to know, it’s not about being right, only. You want to be right. You don’t want to be a liar. That’s true. But you’ve got to figure out how to message things. And take the time to battle back. You very, very rarely get a knockout blow, which is like, here’s, you know, Jovan Hutton Pulitzer, or Sidney Powell or Matt Braynard or or the Election Integrity Project. Here’s the smoking gun to change our whole mindset on this.
No. What’s going to change the mindset on this is 1,000 facts put together in a mosaic so people can understand and point to it and say, what I felt about this election I can see in the facts here and now I relate to it. And by the way, I want the election officials and the legislators and the government to do a better job with X, Y, Z. You won’t get good reform done unless you build that mosaic, because you’ll be beaten back by the narrative machine, Big tech, big media, big government, just like Nancy Pelosi is trying to do to us right now. So.
Alright. We’ll take a break. When we come back. We got some great guests. Don’t forget visit proamericareport.com proamericareport.com to follow all my interviews and get signed up for the Daily WYNK. And a lot more there. Be back in a moment, Ed Martin. Pro America Report.
